boston consulting group said overt next decade we'll see as many as 5 million manufacturing jobs come back. >> steve, isn't it very simple? companies will go to where they get paid the most and where they have to pay the least in order to do their business, right? >> david, taxes are a cost of doing business. capital goes where it's welcome. capital stays where it's well treated. if the united states becomes seen as hostile to capital, we may get some things back, but not near the prosperity we should have. make it friendly to business and business will respond, including businesses that don't even exist today. they'll spring up. >> rick? >> it's very interesting. most of the chatter that i'm hearing out of washington is really focusing more on reducing the corporate tax rates. david, as you pointed out, the president is supporting that idea. look, i only hear one sector really complaining right now about this and that's the energy sector. they're not worrying about their taxes going up. they're worrying about their subsidies being cut. they're using it as a piece of blackmail to say